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Martin Morgan



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:01 am    Post subject: New Army Reply with quote

Hi everyone,
I am looking at painting a new army for FoGR and I thought I would pick a later army from Duty and Glory. I am thinking of either Habsburg Austrian Imperial or League of Augsburg Anglo-Dutch. The Anglo-Dutch appeal because of the English connection but the Austrians have the advantage of being opponents to the Ottomans plus I have grown to like the Austrians after painting my SYW Austrian army.
Anyway does anyone have any comments on which of the two armies might be better, either in a competitive sense or just plain fun to run? Also are their decent figures for either army and if so who makes them?

Regards
Martin
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Cawdorthane



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know Richard Stubbs has been looking into some floppy hatted Anglo-Dutch figures [all part of his Tricornophobia playing out] for FoGR. I would speak to him.

cheers
Mark

PS My Charles XII Swedes [Tricornophiles almost to a man] would be keen to fight either.
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Richard



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah , so I have settled on Anglo-Dutch but the Bavarians w Imperial allies 1691 looked good too .

IF my Swedes are all about hand to hand, I thought a shooty army would be a change....

Figs from http://www.lurkio.co.uk/ I think and from Nic at Eureka

And no , they are only floppy hat wearers
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Michael Bornstein



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also there some figures from Khurassan Miniatures.
Will have some painted Lurkio to look at on the weekend if anyone is interested.

The only concern is that Austrians don't carry a bayonet, but are much cheaper and for most of the relevant period have pike support in any case.

It become quite a "pretty" army once you add Bavarian, Saxon and Imperial allies.
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Bruce Kelsall



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was choosing between the two I would go with the Austrians, simply because they have the more interesting auxiliaries, eg. hussars. More interesting to paint too. Anglo Dutch are a very effective shooty army but are a bit vanilla. Both should be effective in open competition.
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Richard



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's actually Bavarian ( with bayonet ) and Hapsburg allies-1699 . I like the little sneaky hussar unit Twisted Evil

1 German Horse Dt Horse Armoured Average Pistol Pistol 4
2 German Infantry MF Unarmoured Average Musket Bayonet 6
2 Battalion Gun Reg Gun Average Reg Gun Reg Gun 1

3 German Infantry MF Unarmoured Average Musket Bayonet Bayonet 6
3 Battalion Gun Reg Gun Average Reg Gun Reg Gun 1

4 German Infantry MF Unarmoured Average Musket Bayonet Bayonet 6
4 Reg Gun Average Reg Gun Reg Gun 1

5 Field Artillery Artillery Average Med Art 2
0
6 Bavarian Hussars LH Unarmoured Average Carbine Pistol 2
0
7 Bavarian Guard MF Unarmoured Superior Musket Bayonet Bayonet 6
7 Battalion Gun Reg Gun Superior Reg Gun Reg Gun 1
0
8 Imperial Ally Kurassiere Dt Horse Armoured Average Pistol Pistol 4
0
9 Imperial Ally Infantry MF Unarmoured Average Musket 5
9 HF Unarmoured Average Pike Pike 1
9 Reg Gun Average Reg Gun Reg Gun 1

10 Imperial Ally Infantry MF Unarmoured Average Musket 5
10 HF Unarmoured Average Pike Pike 1
10 Reg Gun Average Reg Gun Reg Gun 1

11 Imperial Ally Infantry MF Unarmoured Superior Musket 5
11 HF Unarmoured Superior Pike Pike 1
11 Reg Gun Superior Reg Gun Reg Gun 1

12 Bavarian Dragoons Dragoon Unarmoured Average Musket 4
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jonathanmoore



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Khurusan foot are really good but the cav are a bit chunky and clunky. There's also that Italian manufacturer Venexia who do whole units but might be out of period.
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jonathanmoore



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best quality for floppy hats are the Tetsudo range from Italy. Also Madaxeman site has a full range of 15mm ren manufacturers.
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Richard



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Testudo are now going to be made by Khurusan but from memory they don't have figs that go later in period .
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LyleD



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And of course there is always the bog standard Essex Miniatures that make up my Louis XIV army (a few will be masquerading as Russians when I fight Damian on Sunday).

With so many armies available for the 1680s could this be a 2014 campaign, or will Richard's samurai campaign be up and running by then Very Happy
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Michael Bornstein



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dreamer
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Martin Morgan



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the comments. I will be at the League on Sunday, and will be interested on looking at Lyle's Essex and Michael's Lurkio figures.

I am tending to lean more towards the Austrians, mainly for the mix of troop types and nationality's.

Regards
Martin
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von Lucky



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How'd you go with this Martin?

(Yes, I'm bored - but I'm prepping my army for the FoG:R comp).
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Michael Bornstein



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which FoGR Comp?

Cancon???
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von Lucky



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, April's LoA one.

What are the (provisional) time period and point limitations?

There was talk of 1500 - 1575 and 800 points?

At this stage my army looks to be exactly 100 elements... and all need to be painted. So I better start now!
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